Andrew Moran of Digital Journal has written a wonderful report of the March 15 “All Candidates Debate” at Don Mills United Church. It is a must read!!
Here is the beginning:
Toronto – Did the Independent and minor political party candidates win Thursday night’s final Toronto-Danforth by-election debate? Although they most likely won’t win the by-election, the Independents brought forth applause and innovative ideas.The Toronto-Danforth candidates made their final case before residents cast their votes Monday for the federal by-election. The two-hour debate featured the Independent and minor political party candidates providing different insights into the political sphere as opposed to the four major political candidates. Nine of the 11 candidates answered questions about the economy, the environment, what the role of government ought to be and the now infamous Bill C-30, which has garnered a lot of negative responses from Canadians across the country. The polls indicate that New Democratic Party candidate Craig Scott, who sported an orange tie Thursday night, will most likely win Monday’s contest. However, the raucous crowd was as much behind the Independent candidates as they were for Liberal Party candidate Grant Gordon, Green Party candidate Adriana Mugnatto-Hamu and Scott.
Read more with pictures and video: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/321271#ixzz1pNMRgXDY
Did the Independent and minor political party candidates win the final Toronto-Danforth by-election debate on March 15?
We the independent and small parties candidates of the Toronto/Danforth By Election wish to issue a joint statement at this time as the main stream corporate media tends to marginalize the true voice of the people in favor of the established main stream political parties.
We feel that certain issues are not being addressed by these main stream parties because they run contrary to the agenda of the corporate and banking systems that have been controlling the political agenda for some time.
We as a group feel that Canada is in dire need for reforms to its system of governance, First of which is monetary reform and a return to utilizing the Bank of Canada to regain control of the issuance of currency.
Second that a national Initiative be undertaken to reform both the parliamentary and electoral systems to ensure a more accurate and fair system of governance.
And lastly an end to the policies of globalization and integration to ensure Canadian sovereignty and self determination.
Without these issues being addressed we believe democracy in Canada may become ineffective and in danger of disappearing completely.
This is the question posed by the producer of this YouTube video.
The commentary attached to the video:
Did the Independent and minor political party candidates win Thursday night’s final Toronto-Danforth by-election debate? Although they most likely won’t win the by-election, the Independents brought forth applause and innovative ideas.
Okay, so win lose or draw the Independent and minor political parties were heard!
The March 15, 2012 debate at Don Mills United Church, was well attended and with the large number and diverse range of candidates, it was a true “Festival of Democracy”.
In the words of one candidate:
Reposted with permission from The Calgary Manifesto.
It has been a busy week with various other projects, it seems this blog is becoming a productive way to procrastinate on school. That being said, I’ve completed the rest of the Toronto Danforth mapping:
At first glance, there doesn’t appear to be any significant change between 2008 and 2011 in NDP vote support, but the initial visual is deceiving. The two maps are built on different vote scales, so the darker orange on the 2011 map is at least 10% stronger support than in 08. An initial qualitative assessment would conclude that the support patterns are largely inverted to the LPC, indicated that gains in Danforth in 2011 came at the expense of the Liberal Party. As Elections Canada will likely be using the same polls for the ByElection, this provides an opportunity for use to quantify a possible vote shift back to the Libs. A northward march for the NDP, and a southward march for the CPC may leave the LPC with nowhere left to go.
The strongest growth areas can be seen on the western edge of the riding, and on the eastern edge, about halfway up. I wish I had the demographics broken down for the ridings, because that growth is definitely on the upper edge of the curve. I’d be curious as to the demographic classes which saw an above average break for the NDP. Floating center left voters may be valuable in the coming years. For those with a statistical inclination, ByElections are great opportunities to explore electoral dynamics, as you can run calculations using identical poll numbers. If I survive this semester, Danforth will be a fun race to examine indepth.
If all goes well, I’ll add the provincial breakdowns as well, but we’ll see. Hopefully the next post will be more than just a cursory look.
Last week, letters editor Paul Russell asked readers: “If you were prime minister, what law would you pass?” We’ve been inundated with responses (75 words or less).
Rein in politicians
I would make a law that mandates these qualifications for aspirants to public office. You are: not a lawyer, not in need of money, not on a career path and not a member of a political party. You have: children, seen the inside of a jail cell, single citizenship, compassion and have been hungry. That should hinder careerists, egomaniacs, greed merchants, silver spoon socialists and sundry scoundrels from infesting our institutions like rats on the ship of state.
David J. Baughn, Toronto.
Every elected politician should spend one day every two weeks in front-line services for the poor. Not on the committee to organize the next fund-raising dinner, but helping find a homeless person a home or a veteran their benefits. Having to confront these groups and their problems “up close and personal” might make for better laws all round. “A nation’s greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members.” (Mahatma Ghandi)
Jim Drummond, Halifax.
Let’s have a law that makes it illegal for anyone in Canada to be a professional politician.
Robert Cunningham, Bonfield, Ont.
Read more suggestions here.
Twitter has arrived as a participant in the Toronto Danforth Debates. To see the discussion unfold from the perspective of the Green Party see the above tweets.
So, what happened? It was the only televised debate. The one hour debate included Grant Gordon, Adriana Mugnatto-Hamu and Craig Scott. Depending on your perspective these “main party” candidates were either the “main event” or the “warm up” for the five minutes of Christopher Porter and Bahman Yazdanfar at the end.
Watch the video of the debate here.
In any case, some thoughts: Read the rest of this entry
March 7 was a busy day for the candidates (or at least some of them). There were actually two debates/meetings.
Debate/Meeting 1: Eastern Commerce Collegiate – 11:30 a.m. -12:30 p.m.
Participants Included: Adriana Mugnatto-Hamu, Craig Scott, Andrew Keyes, Grant Gordon, Bahman Yazdanfar
It was polite and civilized and the audience was students at Eastern Commerce. The moderator was (not completely sure, but it looked to me like) a teacher. His role was to ask questions that “apparently” were generated by the students. The room did NOT have a high level of energy. For the most part (and I think this was a mistake) the candidates did not tailor their answers to a “younger audience”. Possible exception – Grant Gordon. Mr. Gordon has impressed me as one of the candidates who is most likely to listen to and respond to the question actually asked. Andrew Keyes continued to “soldier on” and preach the virtues of the Conservative Party. Craig Scott continued to emphasize that he is (and wants to continue to be) a member of team NDP. Adriana Mugnatto-Hamu and Andrew Keyes continued to demonstrate a strong commttment to Toronto Danforth. Bahman Yazdanfar continued to emphasize the importance of candidate over party.
In any case, after an afternoon break, these same candidates (Andrew Keyes excepted) appeared at the evening debate.
Debate/Meeting 2: 86 Blake St – 7:00 p.m. – 9:00 p.m.
It was intended to be an “All candidates” meeting/debate. The “no-shows” were the Libertarian Candidate (he has yet to appear – therefore hard to take him seriously) and interestingly Conservative Candidate Andrew Keyes (he may have a “one meeting a day” rule). In any case, that left nine candidates. Read the rest of this entry
Came across this this very interesting post. It begins as follows:
With another two weeks to go before the Toronto Danforth byelection, there has been some speculation as to the possibility of the seat changing hands back to the Liberals. While I am skeptical of this claim, I thought it would be worth examining in a bit more depth.The riding voted Liberal throughout the 1990s before being won by deceased NDP leader Jack Layton in 2004. As a Ryerson professor and city councillor, Layton made a name for himself in Toronto politics, but lacked the widespread recognition common with federal politicians.
He took the leadership of the NDP handily in 2003, and but won by a slim 2,400 votes his first race in Danforth. Despite only moderate gains for the NDP, Layton was able to increase his margin of victory in each passing election. Even after his passing, Jack’s legacy remains a key factor in the future of the NDP. By the strength of his personality, and the frustration of Quebec voters with the BQ, he led the party to a spectacular breakthrough in the province. The Danforth election may offer a glimpse into the future of a Layton-less NDP party. Layton consistently outperformed his party both in Toronto and Ontario, and represents one of the best examples of personality driven support.
Read the complete post here.
Wednesday March 7, 2012 – 7:00 p.m. – 9:00 p.m. – 86 Blake St. – Toronto
Update!! In a victory for Toronto Danforth democracy – the organizers of the debate have reversed their position and all candidates on the ballot are to be invited!! Great news – a victory for reason and common sense.
Not only should all candidates be invited, but all candidates should attend the debates to which they are invited! On the second point of the eleven candidates in Toronto Danforth, we have nine confirmed for the March 15 candidates debate at the Don Mills United Church (7:00 p.m.). It is guaranteed to be an evening of excitement. By the way, the two who have not confirmed are: Craig Scott (NDP) and Andrew Keyes (Conservative). But either way an exciting and interesting even is assured for all!
Would be interested in getting your thoughts in the above two polls. Also, this is not the first time this issue has come up. Here is an earlier post describing the problem of candidates being excluded from debates.
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